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Alright ladies and gentlemen, thank you everyone for staying. And let's begin our question and answer session for today. So who has a question for me? Yes.
(00:00:10) In one of your slides you showed the tarot card for strength or courage. Do you have any training on all the other cards that are out there?
The question was, I showed a tarot card in my slide. I believe it was the justice card. It was the card I used for the Natural Law Seminar. That is the Justice card, that's card number 11 in the deck. That card represents natural law, it represents the laws of nature and the laws of the universe that are always on the throne. His question ultimately was, do I have training in the Tarot and the symbology of the Tarot? Do I understand a lot of the other cards? And the answer is yes, and I have extensively, well I wouldn't use the word extensively, I've in a probably moderately extensive way gotten into some of the symbolism of the major arcana. I haven't done the minor arcana. If you listen to my podcast, it's probably around, I just want to throw it out there and take a guess, it might be around the 60s somewhere, but I could be wrong about that. It's 44. Okay, alright, there we go, somebody who knows my podcast better than me. Thank you. Alright,
So it's in the 40s somewhere where I went through the tarot, Major Arcana, and I broke it down in conjunction with the Kabbalistic tradition because one cannot really study the tarot and not study Kabbalah. They are traditions which are sisters, brother and sister to each other. They have to be studied in conjunction.
If you understand the minor and major arcana cards and how even the major arcana has two sections to it, the two trees, if you will, the two branches, there is the macrocosmic energies and the microcosmic energies. So the first 11 cards of the tarot deck, there are 22 cards in the major arcana. And again, this is a highly symbolic thing because you have 11 and 11. 11 and 11 is a big spiritual number and it's been called the light workers call, the light workers number, etc. It's a call out of awakening and I believe that is what the tarot is as well.
The tarot has been known as the book of truth, the goddess’ book, etc… it the book of natural law. The ancient Egyptian mystery traditions referred to it as Maat's book. Maat was the force of justice in the cosmos, the force of natural law. Maat's teachings taught through what was called the negative confessions, saying about all the negative things that you could do to somebody and then saying, did you do any of those things or did you not engage any of those things?
So again, it's this apophatic inquiry method into natural law. Tarot is all about conveyance of natural law, as is true Kabbalah. Now what we have to also recognize is in any of these traditions, there can be a dark and a light side to it as well. So people have done fortune telling for just profit and benefit to themselves, even at the expense of somebody they may have played with tarot.
The Kabbalistic tradition has a negative side. There's a Qlipothic Kabbalah as well. A dark side exists to all different traditions. There's Freemasonry, which is true and positive, and I call it Light Masonry or Light Freemasonry. And then there's Dark Masonry.
So whenever we're talking about any tradition, it's just knowledge about what is going on in consciousness and in the laws of nature, and how that knowledge could be used, whether it is going to be used to uplift people or whether it's going to be used to control them because you have the knowledge of how it works and other people don't.
To go back to your question about the symbolism, if we break down the major arcana of the tarot into two halves, eleven cards each, that splits into the microcosmic laws of nature, the microcosmic aspects of the self and then the macrocosmic aspects or energies that we're working with in the natural world, in nature. So card zero is the beginning of the major arcana, that's the fool, or if truth be told, that is the soul card. The fool is kind of like a code word for it, because you'd have to be a fool to incarnate on this planet, but it's the soul coming into incarnation in the flesh. It's really the soul card. But he's making a leap of faith. He's taking his chance to do his mission here.
And the next ten cards, you set them up in the ten positions of the sefirot on the tree of life in the Qabbalistic tradition, and you have all the forces of the self. All the indwelling forces of the individuated consciousness, with the fool representing the da'at position, D-A-A-T-H. D-A-A-T-H means knowledge in Hebrew. This is knowledge of the self.
Now if you do the same thing with the second set of eleven major arcana cards, and you take the end card and set that aside, and then you have cards eleven through twenty, with card twenty-one being the world or the universe. So you have the soul and then the universe. You put that at the da’at position and that represents knowledge of the macrocosmic domain and cards 11 through 20 are all the forces of nature, with 11 being the king on his throne, the justice card, representing the force that governs all of nature, natural law, which is why it is the title card of my natural law seminar.
So the short answer to your question is yes, I'm very versed on tarot symbolism. I could probably give courses in it. I have not done anything to that extent yet, but I'd like to do something strictly involving the tarot in the future, definitely. And if you want to check out a gentleman who probably even knows more about tarot than me and his breakdown of the symbology is phenomenal. It's Michael Tsarion. He is recently putting out a work where he breaks down each individual card of the major arcana of the tarot deck, probably in even more detail than I ever have yet. Tsarion, T-S-A-R-I-O-N. I consider him a personal mentor. Yes?
(00:06:21) What is the depth that you prefer to use in the tarot deck? Is there various depths?
The question was, what is the deck that I prefer using when studying tarot? And again, this is a highly personal thing, there is no correct answer. I think any deck, as long as it has 78 cards specifically, works. You want the 22 major arcana cards and then the rest of the deck totaling 72 total cards, 78 total cards, I'm sorry.
There's different symbolism and interpretations of the symbolism portrayed in different decks, depending on who designed the deck and the tradition that they were preferring to teach of symbolism they were teaching through the deck. You have the weight deck, you have things like the universal weight deck is a more richly colored version of that deck. You have Crowley's deck, the Thoth deck is an excellent deck. You have the other decks designed by Israel Rigardi, like the Golden Dawn deck. And then there's older decks from different traditions. You have Egyptian style decks, Italian style decks. I wouldn't say there's any one particular one right deck to choose. It's a personal choice, it's the symbolism that really resonates with you because if the maker of the deck knew their stuff to make the deck enough, they're going to put the necessary symbolism in any deck that is created.
I know an individual who's made a personal tarot deck and it's phenomenal, you know, with his own personal unique style and symbolism and had an artist draw up the art on all the cards. I plan on, if I get to this in my lifetime, making my own tarot deck. I want a painter to, I want to commission a painter at some point to paint all 78 cards at some point. But certainly at least the 22 cards of the major Arcana, then maybe we could do some digital work with the minor Arcana. I don't know if I would do individual personal images on each deck instead of just putting the suits on each deck and have the numbers or whatever. But my point going back to what deck I like, again I may make my own deck personally in the future at some point if the opportunity avails itself with the proper artist.
But I personally really like the Golden Dawn Magical deck, not the traditional Golden Dawn deck, which is also very nice, but I like working with what is called the Golden Dawn Magical deck. And it's, again, different than the Golden Dawn deck itself. It's a lot harder to find than the traditional Golden Dawn deck. But there's just something about it that, for me, I like the artwork, I resonate with the particular symbolism that the maker of the deck, who I believe was Israel Rigardi, I could be wrong about that, or Rigardi may have been working with someone else on that deck as well. But that's my favorite tarot deck.
I also really do like Alistair Crowley's Thoth tarot deck, but I would say it probably is second in place to the Golden Dawn Magical Deck for me personally. Just my personal choice. Yes.
(00:09:44) How you doing Mark? Good. I just want to thank you for everything. My wife and I just recently started listening to you. We're on like podcast, twenty. Cool. It's just amazing information. Thank you. Thank you for being here. Thank you. My question is, touching on like, you talked about Christ and everything. I know you do courses on the problem. Do you have any recommendations on what you do to steer me to get involved in the esoteric meaning behind the Bible? Yes. Like the Old and New Testaments?
Yes, actually I have a lot of material on that, okay? The best way for me, instead of just sending you some individual links or a couple of documents here and there, is for you to get in touch with me by my email and request, you can even go on my page, on my website, on the contact page, and request, hit the link to request the ARK drive. I make a terabyte drive. Yes, go ahead. Yeah, oh yeah, if you have a hard drive, you can give it to me now. Yeah, I like people who really mail it to me too because then you're in control of the shipping. So I used to let people just give it to me and then ship it back. As a matter of fact, I would prefer that you ship it to me because then all the shipping and insurance would be in your hands. And if anything were to go wrong, it's actually your property, I'd rather not have to deal with any insurance claim with it.
That's usually what I do is I ask people to send me a hard drive. I'll fill it up with all the information that you could possibly ever probably want to look into or study. It's 1,800 documentary videos, 20,000 mp3 files, and about 7,000 digital books. You won't finish it in your lifetime. Period. It's got every topic you could possibly ask for information about pertaining to what's going on in the world and also different occult traditions and bodies of study.
So it will keep you busy for a long, long, long time. And there is tons of stuff on astrotheology on that drive. I could, once I get you the whole thing, then I could give you some tips about where to go in or I could put a note on that particular drive. Here's some of the better things on astrotheology. But I'd prefer to give that all to you in one spot. You know, this way, it's all there and you can go through it at your leisure. I call this the ARK, A-R-K, the Amazing Repository of Knowledge.
How large do you suggest it might be?
It has to be at least one terabyte. It could be a larger drive, but it is one terabyte of data. I will fill the drive, so I think it has like a couple of gigabytes left over after the data is copied to it, but it's one terabyte full. I am working on a 2TB edition of it because I have, there's probably like 30 terabytes of information in my house that I've digitally archived. I, you know, people are asking for somewhat different information or topics here and there and I say no, that's not on the ARK, that's in my personal collection still.
So I put on what I thought was most significant but I could definitely expand upon it. I don't know that'll help people more make it difficult more difficult to wade through, but I was planning a two terabyte version especially since hard drive prices are coming down I was thinking maybe I'll throw on a couple of good allegorical Hollywood films on it as well. And I don't ask for anything for this. It's just freely available. I just copy the data for you to the drive. That's all it is. You send the drive to me. I copy the data to the drive. I send the drive back to you. That's it. I you just have a return shipping label sent to me in the box with the drive and then it goes back to you once the data is copied to it.
So hit that link on my site email me. Tell me you're interested in the ark. Make a note that you want specific info on astrotheology. I'll I'll put a note with it or on the drive like some of the good stuff to look through about astrotheology. And you know, you could you could request the ark drive right from my contacts page, okay? You got it. Yes, ma'am.
(00:13:43) First of all, thank you Mark for coming and doing this and for the 150 plus shows that we have had the opportunity to listen to. Thank you. Because you're so much more knowledgeable about this, I just wanted to ask for all of us that are trying to put out the word and trying to do good, is there anything we do for protection? I mean, you know more about what we're trying to be protected from. That isn't necessarily on a physical level.
Yes, there is. I speak the truth continuously. That's the greatest protection anyone can ever receive from the universe. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't make a difference if anybody tried to take me out right now. I'm protected in the best way that any form of consciousness could possibly be protected. Be bold. Speak the truth and the universe will come to your assistance and defense. That's the best advice I can give anybody regarding any protection about any possible form of harassment or attack from any entity, human or otherwise. Okay? Stand Stand in the power of truth, it is the shield. Thank you. You're welcome. Yes. I'll get to you next, sir. Yes.
(00:14:55) Thanks again for the awesome presentation. I have a quick question for you. I don't know if you're familiar with this particular theory, the theory that the whole world is a universe. Oh yeah. I'm just wondering if that's more of the BS that the dark occultists are perhaps putting out there to keep us in a cul-de-sac, to make us feel like we're just in our own video game, like a player, or a game of chess.
I think it can take on that aspect if it's taken too far into an extreme, but do I think that the universe is self-similar across all scales and also essentially the very large is reflected in the very small, the very small reflected in the very large. Yes, I do believe that those are principles of natural law operating all around us in our environment and within ourselves.
So I do think that this is a holographic construct of sorts. But that, see again, if you take that into a form of extreme right brain imbalance, it means, oh, it's just all a simulation, so nothing in the simulation makes a difference. It doesn't matter what happens. That's not true. It does matter what happens here because this is the construct for our learning, our growth, our spiritual evolutionary development. So it's not just about being passive and saying, oh, the whole universe is an illusion, who cares what happens. You know, that's why I basically made that one of the points of awakening.
Yes, you can understand that everything is one at a fundamental unified level, but that doesn't mean that experiences are happening on the individuated, in the individuated physical realm, where we come to have experiences and to grow and learn aren’t of significance. It absolutely means that the experiences, the experience is the important part here. And even if we understand, yes, this physical matter is just a construct for that experience in consciousness, that does not mean that the experience is not of absolute significance and we should take seriously what happens here. That's the danger of falling into a right-brain imbalanced state.
So I like the holographic reality concept, but it has to remain in balanced, in balance, with feet-on-the-ground spirituality. So I hope that answers your question. Yes sir.
(00:17:09) Couple of things. On your point on order taking brought to mind who’s suffering PTSD, these order givers or soldiers. And are you familiar with a woman who calls herself somali on the internet?
I've heard of this, but I'm not really intimately familiar with it. What was she about?
She was an Illuminati trotter.
It is the person I'm thinking about, yes.
She was a slave.
I haven't gone into her work too much. I've heard about it. People have started to recommend her to me. I've received a recommendation in the past. I've looked into it a tiny bit. Seemed like she may have been involved in the dark occult somehow. I didn't really look into a whole lot of the material that she had put out. I probably should do that at some point.
Well, that was around 2006 or 2007. I don't think they can find her or locate her.
Oh, really? Interesting.
But, MichaelTsarion.com is a mentor for me too.
Phenomenal, phenomenal work. Absolutely, people should definitely check out his work, without any question. Yes sir.
So, again, thank you for the presentation.
Thank you.
We are very appreciative of that. I'm sure you're getting so tired of hearing about this, but still, the person trying to clear it up, like, all these ways to seek your wisdom, it's not Mullick. Specifically, the whole, now I've seen other people on YouTube, what is your interpretation of the owl symbol? And I see you think it more of a takeaway, not from the Canaanite god, you know, with the horns, and that's how it's supposed to trend over. But it was actually just the actual essence of being hidden is more important. These are the people who are over the wood line looking down at the field.
(00:18:54) So one of my questions to that is, I think a lot of people might be losing the relevance of just how frequently that symbol does it to people.
So I do see it as being very important to them. And one last thing before I go, there's a lot of people really missing out on what's going on with the youth right now. I think more than ever, as you say, the statistics that are on the DSB statistics are not the statistics that we're talking about. But whatever it is, I think they're trying to take away our years at one of the highest times. I've always been involved in what we call the rave movement, you know, the rave is as old as festivals go.
However, the main business has come under now, the largest music festival in the world in four years running, and this year will actually make maybe the largest festival in music history. 350,000 people will be in appearance. I've been to this music festival so many times before, and there's a mall where you have the giant owl, you can see it everywhere. I was wondering if you could help me clarify, is that a Canaanite god, or a Lusine, or is this some kind of a Minerva, Artemis type of reference, they know something I don't know, or is there an infestable or a happiness system?
Right, it goes back to the Babylonian tradition. Ishtar was often depicted as an owl goddess in the Babylonian tradition. There have been owl symbolisms representing knowledge. And again, occultism, knowledge, an owl can see in the dark, it has superior night vision. So that which is difficult to see at night has been represented by the owl. It is cloaked, seemingly cloaked in darkness, it's hard to see. You have to unveil it to take a look at what lies underneath you, you need to dig deeper and look deeper.
So that's occult, general occult symbolism. And they've depicted this with an owl to represent one who is capable of seeing in the dark because of its superior night vision. Now, the dark occultists love the predatory owl symbolism, like with Molech. And I would say Molech is a dual god. It was seen as both an owl and a bull. And that symbolism merged. And you could see some owls have what literally looks like horns. And that merges, that symbolism merges at some point. I would probably say where that started to merge is in the Carthaginian traditions, Phoenicia Canaanite traditions, and it went dark when it came into that region of the world, as far as I'm concerned.
Not to say that there wasn't dark occultism in the older traditions like the Babylonian and Sumerian traditions, etc. There were sorcerers there as well that were manipulating consciousness and manipulating people through symbolism. But I would say where it went into the realm of having innocence offered to it as sacrifice, was in the rituals that the Carthaginians practiced that were known as Molochs. The rituals were called Molochs. They were sacrificing infants, the purest. They felt that the purest energy had to be given to this dark variation of the sun god.
And people don't often look at Molech or this sacrificial god that they were offering these rites to as a light god or a god of the sun. See, they were doing this because they believed that the earth and the sun had to receive some sort of a blood sacrifice for their harvest to be favorable. So they did this often in springtime. The first part of the spring, this is known as the season of sacrifice in the occult world. It's from the spring equinox to the halfway point of spring, because that's the planting season. As soon as the winter is over, spring equinox comes in, you want to get your plants in the ground, by the midpoint of spring, if you're not already planted, you're not going to have a big harvest.
So that's when they would offer blood. They felt that, well, since all of the energy that we take in through food, it goes into the blood. The blood is the carrier of energy through the body. That's how we process energy. That the life force, the vitality of a person was inside the blood. This is why blood is so important in sacrifice rituals. So even in the biblical text it says the blood, the life force, is in the blood. It was translated in many cases as the blood is the life. It is the carrier of the life force.
So they believe that that had to be released in the purest form possible, which is child's blood. So that the sun, because the sun god and the earth god that was providing that life force to us through the light and the energy of the sun interacting with the earth to then bring nutrients into our body and into our blood to provide vitality, had to be somehow, a portion of it had to be given back to that creator god. And of course this is a dark occult worldview, it's not anything that is obviously based in logic or reason, it is dark religion. It is what, you know, occultists would simply refer to as the old religion.
The old religion is sun worship, literal sun worship, the worship of the actual star in the sky that allows us to have life through its light and energy. And they look at that as their god, but it's also a symbol of knowledge. So this ties it all back to the owl as well, because if knowledge is light, and those who can see and have the light are the knowledgeable, well then, they could wield that as a weapon to people who they keep in the dark.
So the solar symbolism and the owl symbolism is twofold. So you have people who considered knowledge, the light, the sun, or the owl, the one who can see in the dark, see things as they really are, even if the conditions that they're operating in is darkness. If they use it for the right reasons, those could be positive, uplifting symbols. I'm not telling you every piece of solar symbolism is dark or negative. Some people use solar symbolism and it's a very positive...
Solar symbolism, the eye, being able to see in a world of darkness. I wouldn't use that if I think it's a negative symbol. I think the all-seeing eye is a very powerful, positive symbol. But symbols can have dual meanings depending on who's using them. So in again these dark occult traditions that were based in literal sun worship and blood sacrifice, they also use the symbol of the sun as the black sun. Those who have the light can use it in a dark capacity to hold consciousness down by keeping people in darkness or in ignorance while they hoard all the light and then use it as a power advantage over their fellow human beings. And they also took the symbol of the owl and perverted that as well to use it as a symbol of the dark occult, or those who had the light and had the ability to see, but they were using it for predatory purposes.
Again, why they like that symbol of a predatory bird of prey, who can fly above its prey at a higher level, seeing the whole field, and its prey can't see it, but it can see in the dark because of its superior night vision. So that's where all that symbolism becomes tied together, and I would say it's definitely not just one thing. Anywhere you see an owl doesn't mean there's dark occultists at work. It could very much be the opposite, and it could be people of a much higher level of consciousness that look at knowledge as something that needs to be taken in and shared. I have a beautiful painting of an owl in my basement, that is right next to where I work every day.
So I have Owl symbolism around me there as well. Again, I think symbolism always has to be looked at from a perspective of who is it being used by and for what purpose is it being used. That's what's going to determine its intent, just like the usage of any other tool. Yes, sir?
(00:27:08) Well my question is based on premise. One of them, I'll disagree with the premise, but it doesn't seem like you do. So, if awareness, or the ability to consciously observe a stimuli, indicates a personal moral responsibility, does conscious interference, or just distraction, disturbance, intrude into the quality of our awareness would induce chronic death, drunkenness, cognitive dissonance, excessive stress, tension, striving, that sort of think.
I would say if you live in that modality constantly and try to make your life about nothing but that, you're adding to the ignorance that's all around us in the world. So I'm not telling people that they should go out and become drug addicts by taking drugs. I'm saying it's your right to put a substance into your body, but again, I'm always advocating for balance, self-control. Can I go out and have a couple of beers, not get totally trash-wasted, and then do stupid stuff all over the town? Yeah, I can do that.
Somebody who doesn't know their limits, or who wants to go overboard with everything, should probably abstain from that activity, not only not to make a fool out of themselves, but not to hurt other people. But that doesn't mean it's not your right to ingest it. It wouldn't be your right to ingest it and go do stupid and harmful things. That's where you have to separate the actual act of ingestion of any compound in any amount versus the acts that will follow. So I'm always advocating for personal responsibility.
So if I want to, for example, chew on a few psilocybin mushrooms and have a visionary experience, you probably won't see me trying to drive in that instance. It would probably not be a good idea. You're not going to exercise such good judgment. But hey, even if I did and I didn't hurt anybody, there's no harm done, but I took a chance there. If I then took that chance and did harm, I think I've got to be held to account for it. But I don't think you do that preemptively. That's why I think, hey, even if somebody wants to drink and drive, you know, drinking and driving is legal in some states still. You can actually drink with open containers of alcohol in a moving car. With you operating the car, you can be drinking a beer in certain states, which shows you the moral relativism of all of man's law, by the way. You know, that's completely illegal in some places, and it'll get you locked up, and in other places it's okay.
But if you get pulled over for erratic driving and your blood alcohol level is a certain amount, which it almost is definitely going to be with how low they'll set it, you'll definitely have some action taken against you. But I think that when an action manifests, you should be held accountable for it if it manifested wrong. And that's to go with following the ingestion of any compound or no compound. Whatever you do, you're responsible for. Period. So that's why you have to know your limits, you have to know about your conscious. That's what knowing the self entails. Yes?
Just as a...
Yeah.
Also, just on a finer level, excessive TV watching, self-induced sleep deprivation, you know, it's excessive stress and work.
Sure. That too. One of the things I should have put in here, I just briefly touched on it in the section about what we take into ourselves, how it determines behavior, is food.
(00:30:40) An awake person is going to care enough about their body that they're going to put clean water, clean food, as pure food energy into their body as possible. Awakening also means that, taking care of the physical self because they understand the importance of the physical vehicle for advancing spiritual life on the earth.
So definitely very important, good points as well.
(00:31:05) I consider myself a warrior for truth my whole life. It's just the way I've always been. So nothing resolves the responsibility of that. But I'd like your opinion about the 26,000 year equinox perception, and the whole idea of that we're coming out of the dark period and moving into the light, and the light is shining into all the dark corners. We see all sorts of institutions right now crumbling that are on the dark side. What is your opinion of that?
Well, I don't know if I necessarily agree that the institutions that are dark in our world are crumbling. I think that some people are coming online to recognizing them for what they are. When it comes to cycles, my take is not completely in alignment with, but quite similar to certain takes on cycles that are seen in the Hermetic philosophy. And that is that, yes, there are cycles of consciousness. And you could go back into the Vedic traditions and study things like the Yugas, which were great ages where they said that there would be certain golden ages and bronze, silver and bronze, and then an iron age, the iron age they called the Kali Yuga, the yuga of destruction and dissolution and chaos, etc.
And I think that could also represent breaking down what is negative and needs to be done away with as well. Kali should not just be looked at as something that is dark or negative. It also wipes away that which needs to be wiped away. So when it comes to cycles, do they exist? I believe that they do exist. Are we bound to the tendency of the cycle? No.
I look at them as tides. Everything flows according to laws of rhythm and compensation. So, if you want to row a rowboat out to sea, can you do it when the tide is coming in very strong? Yes, you can do it. Will it take a whole lot more effort to get it done at that time rather than wait for when the tide is going out and it would take much less effort? You still can do it, but you're going to exert a whole lot more energy if you don't want the default condition of the boat remaining on the shore.
So, in this time period, the cycle of consciousness that we are in, we're in a period of consciousness is attempting to be shut down by dark forces. I see it the exact other way. There are forces that are trying to work to prevent the elevation of consciousness. And they're all gathering and they're working together in a unified front to suppress something from coming up.
So that is the tendency in this cycle, the suppression of consciousness, or it is what I would call entropy of consciousness. The entropic force is working against us awakening and being conscious of patterns and meaning with respect to those patterns. And that's why we see the majority of the world is still asleep. The majority of the people of the world, if we are being honest with ourselves, are still asleep. Completely asleep. Completely and utterly ignorant of what is going on all around them. Unfortunately.
That having been said, this cycle that we are in does not have to go that way. If enough will is applied, just like if enough willed, you couldn't row that boat out to sea on your own in the high tide coming in. If you got three people seated in the boat and they all had oars and used all of their strength, you could get it out there. It can be done. But there are going to be requirements for doing that under those conditions. The conditions, if we don't want further tyranny and total slavery to manifest, the tendency is toward those right now.
If we want to reverse those conditions, more of us have to come forward and put the truth out there to other people in a much bigger and more forceful way. Again, I did not say violent way. I said in a forceful way, meaning the truth has to be spoken unwaveringly, unapologetically, no matter who it offends, because you cannot unhear something. The most rigid, skeptical, heart-hardened individual is incapable of unhearing any word that comes out of my mouth. They can ignore it. My family members are ignoring everything I've pretty much ever said on any of these topics. But you know what? They've heard it, and they can't unhear it.
So, then that becomes, like everything else is, a free will choice. It doesn't mean we are ensured with a positive outcome, that just because we're speaking the truth, there's going to be an awakening process and an ascension process. It can happen if enough of us work on that and enough people, their egos break down, dissolve, and they say, okay, I was wrong. The magic words that are going to change the world are, I was wrong. And then they change their thinking. As a result, their behavior changes, and then the conditions change.
However, the syntropic force that orders things against the natural tendency to break down and go into chaotic states and darker states, that is willpower. Right now, where we're at, I don't think we have those numbers. We need so many more people, to the extent that I understand it and beyond, teaching this material, and we just don't have those numbers. I'm not trying to paint a hopeless situation. I’m just trying to be honest about where I see the dynamic going.
So if enough people came forward and taught this, and other people were told how it actually is and then they still refused it, the negative consequence of the cycle is going to manifest. If enough people used their sum and their will, came forward, expressed this knowledge to other people in whatever medium was possible within their capabilities. It might be possible to reverse the dynamic. Might be.
So what about the whole fractal time, like you're saying about the cycles or whatever, that we're heading into what seems to be people are believing is, whether you call it the second coming, and my personal belief is that nobody expected Jesus to be who he was. And they couldn't accept him. Right. And they couldn't follow him. My personal belief is that we are all gods. That's how it's going to come back. And that it's going to be hard for people to accept. But that this whole idea of cleansing, where the people that are enlightened in a way are here to manifest a new earth and take of the earth, and the ones that are not awake are whatever they’re going to have them that we’re supposedly like separate from them right now. Do you believe that?
No, I don't think there's going to be a great separation of humanity. I think we're all in this together, and we're going to share in the co-created, shared experience. So I don't think the universe says, hey, class, there were a couple of people who got A's in this class and then the rest failed, so we're going to take them out and they're going to have this consequence and then...
Creation judges the aggregate consciousness. And then people will say that's not fair, and maybe it’s not, but unless you have a way off this planet and to go somewhere else where these circumstances aren’t manifesting, I think we’re in this together, and I think we're quarantined here together by higher forces until we do understand natural law.
The other highly advanced civilizations in the cosmos are not going to allow the human infection to propagate through the rest of the local sector of the galaxy. Let's put it that way. This is a quarantine planet. We're living in a prison planet. Definitely. That's my worldview. That does not mean I think that that's an eternal situation. And nor do I think the universe is a prison. That's the dark occult worldview. They think the universe is a prison, so they're going to rule it rather than serve within the will of the creator. Because they look at everything as just... Because they can't do whatever they want unchallenged, they look at that as a prison. That's their worldview, actually.
And so, because they can't escape the consequences of natural law, they do the next best thing. They get other people to perform their actions for them, so they take the brunt of the karmic consequences, and then they want to use these life extension technologies so that they can become, quote, God here, or live as long as possible, stretch out their life so that they don't have to go even into other realms and experience negative karmic debt or consequences as well. It's a total ideology and worldview of complete folly. But nonetheless, that's their religion. Because of their worldview about how they see the universe, you see, they want to be God. That's all it really comes down to. They want behavior with no consequences, no matter how immoral the behavior is.
And if you really think about it, that's what they propagate on a lower level to human beings. Most people also want behavior with no consequences, regardless of whether the behavior is immoral or not. Just not to the extent that the dark occultists propagate that ideology. But to go back to cycles, I don't think there's any assured outcome. I think free will governs the whole situation, and that can turn on a dime. I think that's the good news here.
When we talk about the fractal nature of time, you have to understand that only means a tendency to express, and then there's a choice point where the tendency can go the way it was heading, or we can use the ordering or syntropic principle of free will to counteract that entropic tendency if it was a dark tendency, to then make a jump or a quantum leap, as they have called it, to a positive outcome. That's all governed by free will choice. And that's good news because that means it's up to us whether we go down that path.
In other words, if the tide's coming in real hard, it's going to be real hard to row that boat out there, but if we get a few friends together and we apply some willpower and persistence, we will get that boat out there. That's my take on cycles of time. I said to the gentleman in the back. Yes. I'll go to you next, sir.
(00:42:25) Mark, first of all, I made the connection for the majority of what you said today, but there's a couple of questions I have. One of them is, when you showed that slide, and I'm sure this room is going to go right there, when you showed the slide of the leaders and the soldiers, shouldn't there have been a third picture of the people who paid for that?
Sure. Because through taxation we're all making that possible, which is why I say, do whatever you can not to pay any taxes. I will not work for any corporation or entity that does withholding. Every single amount of money, I don't pay for that. Personally. I don't pay for that. I work for whatever monies are exchanged for me and anybody I work for are direct and there is no middle man and there never will be until the day I die. And somebody can come and shoot me for that or put me in a cage for that, but you're not going to get one cent from me personally.
I will not do a job where any of my money is being used to rape and torture children. Not going to happen in this life. Not in this life. And people will say, well, you interact with that in some capacity. When you buy something, there's a sales tax. That's not within my power to escape that. That would mean you can never use money. So then, stay in one place and die then, is what somebody would say. That's not doing any work on the ground.
I think more and more people should quit corporate jobs, try to do whatever they can to support themselves in a direct capacity, working for an employer as a sovereign, and bring that idea up to more and more people. Bring that idea up to more and more people. We have to go back to working turtle-under-the-table jobs, off books. Off books. And I'm telling you, I'm openly advocating breaking man's law. You're never going to get me to do that. All you can do is shoot me. All you can do is imprison me. And you'll make a martyr out of me if you do that at this point.
So the word's getting out there one way or another, but yes, I agree with you. The people who continue to put money into that system and they are not speaking out against all the immorality that is resulting, are complicit with it at some level. I would say they are more indirectly complicit with it, but complicity is there nonetheless. Yes.
So I guess what else I wanted to say was, and I don't need to tell you this as well, man as you are, and probably everybody in this room the same, is that for thousands of years all these wars that are depicted in those pictures, I mean the people going to get set off, they couldn't even read it. They couldn't even get it. I mean these were serfs these were people, I mean they knew nothing. So basically they're propaganda. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that these soldiers, and I'm not trying to make an excuse for what the majority are young did, are set off and the media is the propaganda. But in the old days you didn't need the media, you just had to kill. You had all the influence and the money and the power to say these people are attacking you, unless you attack them, they're going to come for you.
It's a piece of cake to orchestrate a war. People think it takes so much manipulation and effort. It's the easiest thing to instill fear in other people to get them to go and do all kinds of atrocities.
Yes. So what I'm trying to say is that, you know, if I'm one of these people, people in my family know me in the same situation as probably everybody in this room has family, you know, you try to tell somebody the truth to it and they're like, you're nuts.
Yeah, they're very, very...
I guess the point I'm trying to make is this, if you can’t even tell your own family, who have known you all your life, imagine going to a total stranger trying to convey some of this truth. I guess where I’m going is that I do my part, for example, to protest and voice non-stand-up. Right here at the headquarters of St. Louis, that seems to be my duty. Because I have this evil corporation. I have my own city.
That has such an effect on consciousness too, because if we're putting horribly degraded food into our body, that's horribly degrading us. And that's going to affect the thought process.
Another way of putting it from my perspective is, every time you spend a dollar, you're voting.
That's right.
You're voting in the political system because that's where it's written. But when you spend money, every dollar you spend is a vote. You're telling that corporation, go back to the...
I support that. That's exactly right. That's what I tell my family all the time. They eat all these crap foods, and you know buy all kinds of stuff from the mainstream companies and the mainstream supermarkets. And I'm like first of all that's genetically modified. It's hurting you. It's hurting the earth you know and you're supporting you a eugenics agenda. You know you're supporting a company that's that's, they’re, they're one of these multinational globalist entities that supports the whole power structure.
You pointed out earlier, what do you call it, moral relativism?
Yes.
Okay, the idea that you don't be splitting hairs and saying, well I've got to do this because I've got a family and this and that. But I mean, earlier you held up a cell phone.
Right.
Earlier you held up a PowerPoint.
Sure.
Where do you think those things were made? Anybody knew? And under what conditions?
Sure. Oh, absolutely. Technology is definitely one of those dual edged swords.
So, I understand that. But every time I think of anything that's bought anywhere, and I think, who made that stuff? Then I get into this more... So, I have to have the phone so I can call my...
Which is why, we have to put up the pressure for ethical practices……
I don’t want to use any of this shit either. But the point is the internet is why we’re here today. We couldn’t know about you without the internet.
Yes of course right, so so again there's there is there is are going to be some trade-offs with what you are going to engage with Okay. What I'm saying is to the extent that it is within your ability to pull away from that and still do what you need to be doing with your feet on the ground here on the earth, take those actions. Could I possibly live without some of the technology I have? Maybe so. Does the technology that I employ on a daily basis facilitate deeply what I am doing, the mission I’m trying to accomplish here. Yes and I'm using it in that capacity.
Is a phone inherently something that is bad? Going to war because a politician says go to war and following that order is an inherently bad thing. This doesn't have to be manufactured with bad practices. We can have corporations that are ethical. It is possible to do that. It is possible for people to get together, form a company that produces a product in an ethical way.
So you study what the corporation is and how it's formed. Right. It's only obligations to make money.
Right. Well I’m talking about a company in general. We could split hairs about what a corporation is, but I'm talking about just a grouping of people coming together, forming a company to make a product. Of course you can do that business in an ethical capacity. If you care enough to do it in an ethical capacity. As you say, most of these corporations put profit over people. They don't care about ethical practices, they couldn't give a damn. And I agree, a lot of our products are made like that. And if you really look at it, most of them are. So then, I mean, are you going to beat yourself up all day because you go down to the store and pick up a product that you need for the house. You know, I think that's maybe going into too much of an extreme. I think if...
Everything we've talked about here today, for a lot of years, has sounded extreme. Right. You know, there's what you were talking about, the natural law, and you know, and all the rest of it. That can sound like an extreme.
Sure.
I'm cool with it.
I'm just saying there are balanced approaches that can be taken and what I would say is we always want to keep up the pressure for these companies to act in a moral capacity. And that also starts by speaking to people who work and even run companies. You can create a lot of change by changing someone's mind who runs a local company. You know, they're people like everybody else.
The point is, until these ideas are talked about instead of football scores, instead of the weather, until this is the main topic of conversation, an enlightened society, their first area of interest, the first thing they want to know, the only thing that they want to know when they are interacting with their fellow human beings, is are you awake? That's the question. Are you still in a state of ignorance? Are you still not understanding the fundamental connectivity of all of us?
So until that mentality is brought forward, and it's the everyday topic of conversation, again that's why it's called common sense. Morality is conscience. Common sense is what that word actually means. The common sense right now is more people, the common knowledge is more people know about the players in the baseball game than know about the difference between right and wrong behavior. And therein lies the fundamental problem. Until that dynamic is changed, you're never going to have ethical companies. You're never going to have ethical people. Those companies are made of people who would generally act unethically, if given the chance.
So, it's all about the communication of that knowledge, first and foremost, and again, we're nowhere near the tipping point level of dynamic of having enough people involved in the communication of this particular information. The topic of morality and what it really means to know the difference between right and wrong would need to be the common sense, everyday area of colloquial conversation just about everywhere on the earth first for this dynamic or tipping point to change. Until people are talking about that with everybody around them, don't expect a lot of change to happen. It's not just magically going to happen because some people are recognizing that there's some immorality in it. You have to communicate the actual message of morality to other people such that they get it to an extent where then they're going to propagate it to others and it's going to expand exponentially from there. That's a tall order.
I'm not expecting anybody to come out of here with such a warm fuzzy feeling about how easy this is going to be to do because that's one thing I'll tell you, it's not going to be easy. The principles that underlie the truth are simple and elegant, but to actually put that into manifestation, when you take into consideration just how deep into darkness this planet is, is going to be a very, very, very tall order. A really great point, sir. Yes?
Just like you said, the question that we ask ourselves, don't quote me on this, but from my understanding Coca-Cola's number one job is to triple their revenue over ten years.
Regardless of what has to be done to do that.
And you ask, well how do you do that? How do you actually do that? What do you do? Well, that's the question we're able to work with every day. So then, we just need to have our own question. What question do we need to want to solve? What is there not around us? If there's something that you want that's not around you, maybe it's for you to...
How do you create a world that is based in freedom?
And that is, according to the law of freedom, you have to have a people who are knowledgeable about morality and make a conscious, willful effort to choose right action over wrong action. And if you don't have that now, the only way you're ever going to create that is communicating that knowledge to other people. Which is why I don't want to rearrange deck chairs on the Titanic. I want to get down to the core, underlying heart of the matter, and teach that concept. It's the idea of fish for a man, you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish, you'll feed him for a lifetime. Not that I really believe in fishing, but you get the idea.
Teach some, garden for somebody, give them some food that you've gardened, and you'll feed them for a couple of days, teach them how to garden, they'll be able to garden forever and feed themselves. So that's the whole point here. We've got to get down to the underlying causal factors, teach people what is generating the condition, the causes, instead of looking at just the effects. And that's how we're going to be the most effective, by teaching that.
The solution all lies in the mental realm. That's why people will say, I have no solutions because I'm not telling people to do new things. Yeah, you're correct. Did you actually hear me say, go and do this new thing here. And it's real complex, it's going to involve all of this stuff, and here's how you do it, here's the actual methodology. I didn't tell you that. I gave you general concepts about, here's why we're creating what we're creating. You want to stop that, things have to change in the realm of mind. And when they change in the realm of mind, then you'll see the effects in the manifested physical world.
People don't like that as a solution. They want... it's like... I tutor people in computers, okay? They... I get people... I don't want to understand the ins and outs of this program or operating system. Don't teach me the concept. Give me linear steps. Click this menu. Click this item, check this box, hit that button. You haven't learned anything. You haven't learned one thing if I tell you how to do it that way. Because you're not understanding the conceptual idea. Then what happens if an update gets run and now the program is slightly different? The interface isn't the exact same. Maybe they move that command to a different menu. Maybe the checkbox is no longer in the same position. Then you're going to be lost. Because you didn't understand the conceptual idea, and this is where humanity is trapped.
You can liken that linear methodology of check this box, open that menu, etc. to being trapped on the plane of effects. Whereas the conceptual idea, which it doesn't make a difference whether the computer changes, the operating system changes, the program changes, if you know how to do non-linear video editing, you're going to be able to sit down in any non-linear video editing system and get the general concept, even if you have to look at the interface for a day or two and understand how it's different than the one you're used to. The conceptual idea is the main point.
I really enjoyed your part on An-archon-ism.
Thank you.
(00:58:04) So, my question is, in that breakdown you mentioned the rebirth of Archon. I'm a little bit familiar with the more ancient Gnostic definition of it. I was wondering if you could just kind of expound on that a little bit.
Sure. Yeah. In the Gnostic tradition, the Gnostics saw the Archons as these beings that were basically controlling things here and using people as sort of an energy source or a food source. And I do think that that is a very possible, viable possibility, that there are non-human entities that use the negativity that happens here as sort of like a food source and negative and negative energy is like their food Okay.
They considered these beings that were all around us. They could shape-shift. They could change into different forms. They can look at like a human being. Okay. They were governed by dark principalities. They were governed by you know, maybe possibly demonic entities and they call them the Archons, and I don't I'm not completely dismissive of that, but at the same time, my take on it is, it doesn't make a difference who the ultimate controllers of this situation are. I call them the farmers. This is a farm. It's a free-range farm. That's what the earth is.
The different components for the animals are the country borders. That's all. So the farmers and the farming system needs to go. Animals that are being farmed would have every right to rise up and revolt against people who are farming them and using them as food because it's their lives and not the life of the farmer. I mean, you just look at cattle. Would cattle have a right to revolt against man? Sure, sure they would. Because we're slaughtering them and killing them and using them as food. It's not our life to do that with.
I don't make that the main huge point of my whole thing, the whole vegan philosophy. I touch on that and expand on it a little bit in my podcast, but I think we need to focus first on how are we treating each other, you know? But then you can get into species-ism, you know, and then we look at other species as somehow inferior to us, you know, and that our life is just a higher form than theirs, and so we can just do whatever we want to them. Well, who's to say these other entities that are out there in the cosmos don't look at us the same way, as just animals to be bred for their food, and this is just a nice farm. And now it's just full to capacity, you know, and they just look at us as, well, we'll cull them when they get up in numbers that we can't handle. I'm not dismissive of that.
I think where the Gnostics took a very negative or somewhat disempowering or imbalanced worldview is when they think that the whole universe is governed by an Archontic entity known as the demiurge and it the whole universe is evil You know. I definitely don't look at that as a positive worldview. That's taken things way to the extreme of spirit is all that matters and the physical world is evil Okay. And the the dark occult actually have that mindset as well. Again, they think of the universe as a prison, and the reason they think it's a prison is because some intelligence has created boundary conditions known as moral laws, which these psychopaths do not want to be in operation in the world.
Again, they want to be able to do whatever negative, vile, immoral behavior that they want to do in their psychopathic mind state with no consequence. So to them, the dark god of the world is the god that put natural law into effect, and they're going to rage against that god, again, by ruling the prison, reign in hell rather than serve in heaven.
So I think that's where we can look at the possibility of non-human intelligence interacting with our population and possibly be even controlling certain things, but free will trumps all of it. Consciousness and free will and epigenetics will trump all of that. Because once you make a decision not to go along with any particular program, how's anybody going to stop you from that?
How are you going to control me when I'm telling you, I know I'm not the flesh at my essence, okay? I'm not cooperating with you. I don't care if you torture me, I don't care if you kill me, I don't care if you kill everybody I know and care about, I don't care if you torture everybody I know and care about. Good luck controlling that. You know what that state is called? Being out of fear. Being out of fear. You'll never control that. And that's the level of courage people need to get to.
As far as the Archon thing, just possibly, I mean, just like our consciousnesses we create, besides the idea of it being beings, we're creating positive energy and negative energy.
Sure.
We're simply creating that.
That's right.
And that's what's feeding our consciousness.
We are co-creators of our shared experience, and the driving dynamic behind that force of co-creation is free will. That means it's ultimately within our control. We are the drivers, we are the programmers of our code, our computer code. Yes.
Thank you for your patience.
You got it. And I believe this was the last one. Is this the last one? Okay, last question.
(01:03:05) Yes. So, I would like to hear your opinion concerning the student loan debt crisis in this country. Because I'm a debt slave. Because I went to school, I started out when I was 18 years old, I signed up for a notary public loan signing board that's thousands of dollars in debt just like millions of other people.
And I'm obviously very upset about it. And here's my conundrum. So I really want to just say no to all this and refuse to pay, protest, and not be the system. Because it just feels like the right thing to do. But opn the other hand, I also want to pay as soon as possible so I can have breathing room to continue the great work without all these people banging on my door. So I want to hear your opinion concerning this whole...
Yeah, the whole thing is a complete breach of trust, essentially. People were sold a pipe dream, they were sold a bill of goods, they were sold snake oil. But unfortunately, because people put the whole education system up on sort of a pedestal, still, I don't know why, because people with all kinds of degrees can't even find work in today's world. You know, we've made this kind of like a sacred cow, and that's a personal choice. I mean, I can't just recommend any particular thing to do. If you want to just stop paying it, let your finances go into disarray for several years, which they will, do that and start over or try to pay it off. If that's what you think you should do, I think that's a personal decision that you have to weigh in the balance and decide what you think is best for you in your life right now in the moment.
But I definitely think it's a breach of trust and a breach of faith in what they've done. And I think more people have to lose faith in that system. You know, because it's not real education anyway. You know, if real education were to be given, children would be taught the truth about morality. First and foremost, before anything else, that would be what they would be programmed with and would not have the ability to refuse in the first several years of their life.
This is why, one of the things I'll end on, it's a good thing I very rarely bring this up in my talks, but it's about force versus violence. Shamanic cultures don't have the incidences of mental illness, violence, and overall societal repression in many cases than the Western culture does. There's a reason for this. They use force upon their children when they're young. Their children are not permitted to not understand natural law. They willfully program their children with the right computer code. And they look at it as, while that child is in that vulnerable state, they are my responsibility. I am their steward. I don't own them permanently, but I am in stewardship of them. And if I know the dynamic that leads to order or chaos, okay, then I have to program this knowledge into this child from a young age. And you know what happens if the programming doesn't stick and they end up with a psychopathic child?
Out into the wilderness he goes, he or she. And that equates with death in a lot of those cultures because there's no resources there for survival. So if a person tries to come back into the society, then they'll exercise their right to self-defense as tribal warriors. But in essence, that is what I think society essentially needs to do with their youth. The youth should be programmed. It's a highly unpopular view.
If you don't understand the nature of consciousness at a young age, the child is in a hypnogogic trance for six years, from out of the womb to about the age of six. Then they begin to develop their own personality and traits. If you don't program that child, that's where the format of the hard drive has to get laid down. You don't program it with the proper format during the formative years by speaking the truth into that child repeatedly. This is why compulsory schooling is mandatory.
The powers that should not be want 50,000 hours of compulsory schooling forced onto our children's minds so that they hit them with tons and tons and tons of propaganda and untruth and make them into subservient, complacent, willing, passive workers, which is what the system wants to pump out through their outcome-based education system.
A shamanic culture, or what you would just call a highly advanced culture in consciousness or awareness, takes their children, recognizes unless their mind is molded while the child is in their formative years, they're going to have an adult with a bad hard drive, bad operating system, bad software, that's going to spit out bad behavior, and when that happens in the aggregate, you're going to get chaos societally.
The shamanic culture is focused on true education of their youth. And it is a forceful act. They force that. Like we force propaganda in many cases on the children through our false education system. Moral law has to be forced into a child. And they can see the result as well. When they get older, you can say, you can then say oh, and this is a lot of times, this is what the Amish will do. They'll say well you've seen our ways. They program their try and program their children according to moral laws as well, little on the too religious side for my take personally.
But then they say we'll go out into the world and see what happens when you don't receive proper moral uplift and an education and 90% of those people come back and want to live an Amish lifestyle because they're more in touch with nature and they're more in touch with the laws of morality than the general western population. I'm not saying go out and become an Amish person or whatever. I'm just saying it's showing you can program something into a child at a young age, okay? And you could then know when to let off and say, well, go and do experience the world and understand through discernment and judgment what's better for yourself. Was this the right way what I did?
Because now you're at the age of free will, you can do whatever you want, you can reject it if you want, but find out through observation what that will lead to. And I think that's the smart approach when it comes to parenting. It's knowing when you have to apply the force, and then knowing when you have to let off the force as well.
So, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much. Phenomenal questions from the audience. Thank you. Hope you all had a great time today. Seek the truth, then speak the truth. Be the master.
Thank you.
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